Thank you very much fella's ,Im happy if some of you get something out of it ,Im no expert ,but I might be able to pass on a few tips that I've learnt over the years 

Norm....As I said to Erik ,there's no need to wait until the end ,feel free to jump in any time ,Thats what the thread is here for and Im happy to keep it running as long as needed ,perhaps look into painting clothes ,leather belts etc..

Chris.