Finished 1/35 Academy Tiger I Mid Production w/o interior...

[pingvuiini]

...extra crusty of course. This is a continuation of the simultaneous build thread I started here:

http://www.scalemodeladdict.com/index.php/topic,9667.0.html

I got to experiment with a couple of new (for me) and fun techniques on this Tiger. Now that I have finished with these 4 kits I can clean the place up a bit and start on some new builds and some decent prebuilt kits that I got off eBay.

During that last batch of 4 kits I was even able to squeeze in a 1/32 AMT Snap-it Chevy monster truck that was included in another eBay lot. Very easy assembly and a chance to do some more weathering:

 

[the doog]

I like your no-holds-barred, "extreme" approach to weathering as an exercise in just beating the snot out of your models, , but can I ask what your "philosophy" is for presenting your models? Are these last few models "experiments in weathering"? Seriously--I'm not being a smart-ass, I really want to know what you're going for in this approach. If it's an experiment in doing extreme weathering, I would say that you've succeeded phenomenally! I would say that it's probably a bit much for an operational vehicle however.

I would recommend that your spattering technique be refined by masking the top hull and turret to isolate the spatters to the lower levels of the hull and tracks/wheels. The overall, uniform spatter is distracting to the presentation of the whole finish in general.

Also, I wonder if the "peeling" effect is appropriate for armor? What I mean is, this effect is often seen on old cars, where the type of paint might lend itself to peeling after a certain extended period of time. But look a this pic of the Vitmoutiers Tiger--http://www.panzerbasics.com/index_files/25-disks/vimoutiers-disk_files/7.jpg--the paint is pitted and rusted, but not peeling. And this has sat in the weather for over 50 years. I don't think that the type of paint that they used---which was thinned by gasoline---would necessarily have exhibited this "layer-like" peeling? Just something to think about if you're going to go for a more realistic weathering approach.

 

[pingvuiini]

I like your no-holds-barred, "extreme" approach to weathering as an exercise in just beating the snot out of your models, , but can I ask what your "philosophy" is for presenting your models? Are these last few models "experiments in weathering"? Seriously--I'm not being a smart-ass, I really want to know what you're going for in this approach. If it's an experiment in doing extreme weathering, I would say that you've succeeded phenomenally! I would say that it's probably a bit much for an operational vehicle however.

I would recommend that your spattering technique be refined by masking the top hull and turret to isolate the spatters to the lower levels of the hull and tracks/wheels. The overall, uniform spatter is distracting to the presentation of the whole finish in general.

Also, I wonder if the "peeling" effect is appropriate for armor? What I mean is, this effect is often seen on old cars, where the type of paint might lend itself to peeling after a certain extended period of time. But look a this pic of the Vitmoutiers Tiger--http://www.panzerbasics.com/index_files/25-disks/vimoutiers-disk_files/7.jpg--the paint is pitted and rusted, but not peeling. And this has sat in the weather for over 50 years. I don't think that the type of paint that they used---which was thinned by gasoline---would necessarily have exhibited this "layer-like" peeling? Just something to think about if you're going to go for a more realistic weathering approach.

Thank you for your detailed critique!

Re philosophy - Three words: Lust for crust!!!!! ^D

I realize such extreme weathering is not true in the real world. In fact, when I first started posting my models on eBay I would always put 'excessive and unreasonable weathering' in the description just to cover my a$$ (although the buyers didn't seem to care and the crustier models always sold for more). I have had former and current tank commanders email me and basically echo what you have said, telling me about the high level of field maintenance required for an active vehicle (i.e. keeping the periscope glass ultra clean). It only makes sense since their lives depend on it. I've had master modelers urging me to 'get published' or enter model contests. They've given me great insider tips on what I need to do to please judges like build complete interiors, use all sorts of PE and individual track links, etc., etc., etc. But most of all, tone down the weathering!!! Only recently have I just done a complete build with a full PE set and I found it most frustrating and tedious. (I suppose after I buy a bending tool it will be easier). So at this point I don't think I am ready for contests and pleasing the judges. I am having too much fun pleasing myself. (That last sentence should not be taken the wrong way!)

Re spattering - I have been planning to try a new technique that I think should offer more spatter control and, more importantly, not stink up my place so much and, just as important, greatly extend the life of my paintbrushes. On this Tiger I experimented for the first time with plaster of Paris for the lower hull and running gear and tried to lighten up the effect on the upper hull and higher areas. I failed!

Re peeling effect - The peeling effect is new for me. I just got it off the automotive forum and it seems much more suited for cars in 1/25 scale and larger. I have only used the peeling method on the last three or so tanks I've built, but I think I will just use it on cars from now on. I just wish I could use that technique on die cast models!

So perhaps some day I will be able to control my unreasonable urges and weather models in a more realistic toned down fashion that will please everybody. BUT THAT DAY IS NOT TODAY!!!! ^D

Thanks again for your helpful comments!

 

[the doog]

pingvuiini

Your reply to my critique was admirable and eloquent. Thanks for explaining without taking umbrage or having hurt feelings. It's really nice to see someone who doesn't explode with anger when you critique their work or ask questions! THANK YOU!

It was important to know this---why you weather so heavily. And you gave the "most correct" answer of all--because you enjoy it! Great!! Then carry on, and have fun! This is what this hobby is about, after all, is it not? ;D

I asked about your "philosophy" in order to understand your approach and goals. If you were sincere about making "realistically weathered" models, then additional critiques and help would be warranted. However, since you are well aware of the parameters and have received all the critiques that you have--and still prefer this approach, it makes it easier to appreciate your mad skills and talents for what they are--extreme! lol

Thanks again for the explanations and for sharing BOTH your successes AND failures---we can all learn a thing or two from each other if we all share!