Vallejo + thiner = goopymes!

[smusno]

OK,

So I mixed my Vallejo white, with the thinners provided by my hobby shop, and I have just spent 2 hours cleaning my brand new Badger airbrush out all the gloopy crap it caused.

a) should I just use plain old wet water?
b) having such a massive set back on my first dalliance into "proper" painting has put me off.



Someone please tell me it gets easier.

 

[7foot9]

hi

Your best beat is to use the vallejo thinner or windoline/windex this well let you thin your vallejos well with out the mess but useing the vallejo thinner will work the best. Get the vallejo thinner in the 200ml bottle if you can.

 

[Dusky]

Use distilled water or Vallejo's thinner. Don't use alcohols which is might have been what was in that thinner.

 

[smusno]

It was alcohol based.

tbh, i thought airbrushing would be alot easier to get the basics of. But ive just pretty much thrown a bottle of paint at enterprise, and you can still see the undercoat!

**sigh**

stupid practice!

 

[Junkie]

Yeah, either water or Vallejo thinner. You can add a bit of Vallejo Retarder to the thinner too. Prevents it from drying on the tip even better.

It will get better. It will get easier. You have to practice though. Get a box, paint lines, dots, get an old kit, paint it. Just spend ALOT of time painting and you'll find the right balance of air pressure vs. thinning of paint.

Dont' give up...you'll get it.

 

[smusno]

Give Up!?!?!?!

I have to learn, I have a 1/350 Enterprise to do!


Im not giving up, but I AM going to transfer my painting stuff from the shed, to the loft. Painting in the cold sux for me, AND the paint surface.

 

[sunsanvil]

Tip: Vallejo ModelAir is ready to airbrush right out of the bottle. No thinning required (except for special effects and/or ridiculously fine detail work). I've used thinned ModelColor extensively in the past with exquisite results but now I'm buying nothing but ModelAir.

 

[smusno]

Tip: Vallejo ModelAir is ready to airbrush right out of the bottle. No thinning required (except for special effects and/or ridiculously fine detail work). I've used thinned ModelColor extensively in the past with exquisite results but now I'm buying nothing but ModelAir.

My biggest issue at present, is availability.

The hobby shops in my area are just awful......... TO THE INTERNET!!!

 

[CyberShadow]

I am new to airbrushing as well, it does get easier. I found that once you have good equipment (Badger AB for me) dialing the air pressure and paint viscosity to get good results became so much easier.

I also found using ink while practicing at the start worked well and was cheaper. I also picked up ModelAir and now I probably won't go back to using Model Color (unless I spend the time to pre-mix colors to the correct viscosity and bottle them, i.e. lots of work...)

-CS

 

[sunsanvil]

The hobby shops in my area are just awful......... TO THE INTERNET!!!

Where are you located? Elm will ship and he now stocks the full line of ModelAir!

 

[smusno]

The hobby shops in my area are just awful......... TO THE INTERNET!!!

Where are you located? Elm will ship and he now stocks the full line of ModelAir!

Southampton UK.

 

[fubar]

I'm brand new to airbrushing myself mate, i found practise on old plasti card and bottles really helped......i'm still making a mess tho and i still haven't braved putting Klear through the airbrush yet.

I also feel your pain at the lack of model shops, i live in Christchurch UK (just up the road from you ;D ) and theres absolutly no useful model shops in the area (except a few model train shops) so i use the internet also.....thank god for that or i'd be screwed. lol

There used to be a good model shop near West Quay but i believe its not there anymore...haven't been to Southampton shops for years now.

TTFN Matt

 

[smusno]

I'm brand new to airbrushing myself mate, i found practise on old plasti card and bottles really helped......i'm still making a mess tho and i still haven't braved putting Klear through the airbrush yet.

I also feel your pain at the lack of model shops, i live in Christchurch UK (just up the road from you ;D ) and theres absolutly no useful model shops in the area (except a few model train shops) so i use the internet also.....thank god for that or i'd be screwed. lol

There used to be a good model shop near West Quay but i believe its not there anymore...haven't been to Southampton shops for years now.

In Sotton we a "hobby stores", a Model Zone and a little one in eastleigh (just out of southampton).

Trying to catch them in stock is a pain though. As you say, TO THE INTERNETZ!


None of them do any airbrush stuff though. But Vallejo, Revell is plentiful, Tamiya is like hens teeth!

TTFN Matt

 

[Cave_Dweller]

I've tried the Vallejo white paint, but I really don't like it. It always ends up like you said, a goopy, chunky mess! I use tamiya x20a thinner with everything and it works well with every color and brand I've tried *except* Vallejo (and citadel) white paint. It's something about the way those white paints are formulated...they're kind of "waxy."

Since then I've switched to tamiya flat white and I get good results with it and it doesn't have the clumping issues.

 

[smusno]

I've tried the Vallejo white paint, but I really don't like it. It always ends up like you said, a goopy, chunky mess! I use tamiya x20a thinner with everything and it works well with every color and brand I've tried *except* Vallejo (and citadel) white paint. It's something about the way those white paints are formulated...they're kind of "waxy."

Since then I've switched to tamiya flat white and I get good results with it and it doesn't have the clumping issues.

Im going to do this, but ill need to order it online.

The only stockist of Tamiya in the area is halting any new stock all together!

 

[Elm City Hobbies]

You are getting a goopy mess mixing Tamiya thinner with Vallejo because they aren't compatible. Vallejo is a completely different base than the Tamiya paints are.

Vallejo can be thinned with distilled water or their own brand of thinner, not that you need it for the primers.

 

[spud]

our lhs isnt the best either i only go there because a mate of mine works there it will suck big time if he leaves. ive told him he is not to ever do that ;D

he also Told me the other day that ups wont ship tamiya paints to ireland now, now im getting pissed off with this law, its now starting to effect us that like to try and support our lhs