F15A Ford w/Breda in Italian service

... so many cab photos have the Ford wordmark on the console below the speedometer... the kit actually has two, but they are on oval disks, fine for the grill, but on the console I just want the word.
Recess the disc!

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Into the Evil Eye of Sauron goes the disk!
Extra knobs and hand brake in place.

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Might try evening it out, but not too bad!
Once the console and disk are painted, just the raised word will be hilighted.
I will also cover the speedo panel with Kristal Klear.
 
do you have decals
... nope! I'll have to go the paint route.

These Mirror kits are fun in that they have some interesting subjects, however I wouldn't recommend them for absolute beginners.
The instructions often are lacking - as in not clear, or not showing an angle that would be helpful for parts placement.

They are sort of 85% kit and 15% scratch, and they come that way. (Wire provided for fashioning some parts) . So a challenge for intermediates like me, and certainly easier if you have a few similar vehicles under your belt - just to know what to look for, and say, how a mid size truck like this should go together.
 
On the subject of paint, it would seem that these CMP trucks came off the line painted OD or OD/Brown. They were then field painted for North Africa in the colours of the day (which I was surprised to learn varied a lot in the 'specs' from the War Office - sometimes changing twice in a year.
As this one was 'acquired' by the Italian Royal Army (RE), I'm thinking of priming in OD, then an appropriate British desert colour (with a 'u'), then add Italian field painted camo bits.
The desert campaign offers a lot of latitude, what with the differing climates, weathering and terrains across North Africa, field painting and camo, improvised and regulation schemes. And because the two sides overran each other on several occasions, each had access to stores (including paint) left behind.

Edit: replaced OG with OD as per Jakko, below, d'uh!
 
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Nice! Yup, Monty liked his caravans, and he had quite a few!
The British also had armoured Command vehicles, three of which (I think) were captured by the Germans, two being used by Rommel.



I have a 'similar' AEC truck in the stash.

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If I ever built a Command Caravan though, it would probably be one of Rommel's 'acquired' ones, British AEC Armoured Command Vehicles, which were nicknamed "Max" and "Moritz" by his staff.

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do you have decals for the dash
funny, after your post, I went back to double and triple check. The instructions actually refer to interior decals, but there were none in the box. and the PE that was, is much more detailed than the part in the instructions!
 
On the subject of paint, it would seem that these CMP trucks came off the line painted OG or OG/Brown.
OG = olive green? Then sorry, no, they didn't come in that colour :) British/Commonwealth vehicles at the time CMPs like these were produced, were initially painted khaki green No. 3 ("KG 3") which is a colour somewhat like American olive drab (which isn't green), but not quite. From May 1942, KG 3 was replaced with SCC 2 (Standard Camouflage Colour No. 2, which had no real name but was a kind of milk-chocolate brown and so is generally called something like "SCC 2 brown").

Camouflage was to be applied to vehicles in specific ways (but not to fixed patterns) in order to counter-shade them: the tops and upper parts of the sides were to be dark, as were the lower parts of the sides, but not under the body, inside the wheel wells, the chassis, etc. If you're interested, I have a scan of the relevant instructions that I could post :) On KG 3 vehicles, this camouflage was to be applied with a colour called Dark Tarmac No. 4 (dark grey), but on SCC 2 vehicles, with SCC 1A (very dark brown). Note that this camouflage was rare on tanks and other armoured vehicles, as it was mainly to be applied to "B" vehicles (soft-skins), though it does appear on some AFVs as well.

Because of the war in North Africa, vehicles also began to be painted at the factory with overall Portland Stone (a pale sand colour) or Light Stone (a pale yellow colour), but I don't have at hand any information about when this started. Vehicles that came out of the factory in KG 3 or SCC 2 often only had the outside repainted once in Africa, though — many had the inside of the cab in the original colour.

But, as you say, painting regulations varied over time, and in the desert all kinds of things happened, like using captured enemy paint, and of course, like your model, being captured by the enemy and then possibly repainted.
 
Haha, posting past my bed time... OD fer sure.
Yup I have some timeline charts kicking around somewhere too.
I guess what stuck in my head were comments on a restorer thread about the OD and 'brown', and that none of those guys had ever come across a vehicle or parts painted in desert camo outta the factory. Pretty loose in their assertions, but seen more than me!

If you're interested, I have a scan of the relevant instructions that I could post :) On KG 3 vehicles
That would be awesome!

Where did you find them? I'm gonna look for the charts I found years ago, and see how they compare. Although I don't think mine were as specific as to how (or where on vehicle), just which colours per WO dates.
 
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Here you go :)

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I came across this in 2013 (say the file creation dates) when researching British vehicle camouflage. The important things to note are that:—
  1. Many modellers and restorers of real vehicles get the pattern wrong by not applying the dark colour far enough up, down and/or along the vehicle;
  2. The popular "Mickey Mouse" camouflage is not actually shown in this pamphlet, but it is a form of it; and
  3. For much more on the colours used, and when these were in use, I recommend buying some or all of Mike Starmer's books direct from him (see the link).
 
came across this in 2013
Nice, I've seen some of those drawings before, but not in situ of an original document.
Thanks for that!

Now I really do have to look for that colour timeline!
Starmer's stuff comes highly recommended from many quarters.

I don't know how you keep all these references straight in your head... I'm the type that might actually read War and Peace (I haven't), and recount the general storyline... but don't ask me what happened on page 813!
 
This is awesome. Especially cool on the bus and sedan!
All we need now is decent 1:35 scale kits of them (because the Wespe ones are not :) ).

Nice, I've seen some of those drawings before, but not in situ of an original document.
They do pop up in various places, yes. But having the original (or at least, a scan of it) is much better than just the drawings.

Starmer's stuff comes highly recommended from many quarters.
The books are very well researched, and each comes with colour chips of paint he mixed to match (as closely as possible) original samples he unearthed.

I don't know how you keep all these references straight in your head... I'm the type that might actually read War and Peace (I haven't), and recount the general storyline... but don't ask me what happened on page 813!
Oh, I'm the same with that sort of thing :) But I have a good memory for which books I read things in, and approximately where in those books — but really only when I can leaf/flip through them, which somehow makes me recognise I'm probably in the right area by what the pages look like. This came in especially useful back when I played RPGs a lot :)
 
really only when I can leaf/flip through them,
As a former UI guy, which did involve a fair amount of cognitive psychology and application of visual design principles, I still maintain that a real book, which registers as a real object, with real locations, is superior to a web page or eBook, which is essentially flickering lights representing 'pages' that do not exist in real space or persist in real time.

For many people, physical navigation leaves a much more easily recalled trail.
Human evolution and survival developed our brains in this way.

Even to the point where I recall a study that showed that if you studied for an exam in the same location as you were going to write it, at the time of the exam, just looking at features of the room that you might have associated with particular facts will help you recall them. Apparently, this was a technique used in oral traditions such as epic poems, with the bard walking through a temple or location they knew very well, with lines of the poem associated with every feature of the space as they walked through it in their mind.
I would expect that most of the folks here on this forum are pretty visual people, hence the enjoyment and relative success with this hobby.
 
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