Modeling the german Hanomag Sdkfz251/1

Kiwi · Feb 7, 2022

Hi everyone! There is a new project on my workbench: the 1/35 german Hanomag Sdkfz251/1.

After modeling several model railroad structures, I have learned that it is far easier to paint as I go because painting when the model is done make some spots completely unreachable.

So after adding two layers of black primer, I painted the main parts with a dark yellow from Vallejo. I must say that I don't have an airbrush and can't use spraypaint because I have a little parrot and because it's -15 Celcius outside. I do all my painting with a brush.

But because I am still new to scale models, I would like your advice on my next steps. Should I began weathering the inside of this vehicule? What else?

Thanks for your help!

Peppylepugh · Feb 7, 2022

Afternoon Stéphan.
I would, particularly with this kit. Once you put the upper hull on you'll have a tough time weathering anything past the front seats.
Then there is the reverse slope of the upper hull that might give you pause. Especially at the back where the angle is steepest and tapers away from you.
Have fun with this kit. A true classic.

Kiwi · Feb 7, 2022

Peppylepugh said:
Afternoon Stéphan.
I would, particularly with this kit. Once you put the upper hull on you'll have a tough time weathering anything past the front seats.
Then there is the reverse slope of the upper hull that might give you pause. Especially at the back where the angle is steepest and tapers away from you.
Have fun with this kit. A true classic.

Thanks. That's what I thought.

What do you mean exactly by the reverse slope of the upper hull?

CitizenSwift · Feb 9, 2022

If that's the Tamiya kit, I am building the same one myself right now! I'm going to paint and weather all the internals before putting the top on. I'm leaving off the water barrel - so few of my references have it and it fouls against the seats, which I think are a little too large. The kit's from '73 but some of it still fits very well. Some of it doesn't though, so do lots of test fitting

Kiwi · Feb 9, 2022

CitizenSwift said:
If that's the Tamiya kit, I am building the same one myself right now! I'm going to paint and weather all the internals before putting the top on. I'm leaving off the water barrel - so few of my references have it and it fouls against the seats, which I think are a little too large. The kit's from '73 but some of it still fits very well. Some of it doesn't though, so do lots of test fitting

Ah cool, yes it's the Tamiya kit. I want to see your progress with this kit too. Post pictures.

Pantherman · Feb 11, 2022

Stéphan said:
Hi everyone! There is a new project on my workbench: the 1/35 german Hanomag Sdkfz251/1.

After modeling several model railroad structures, I have learned that it is far easier to paint as I go because painting when the model is done make some spots completely unreachable.

So after adding two layers of black primer, I painted the main parts with a dark yellow from Vallejo. I must say that I don't have an airbrush and can't use spraypaint because I have a little parrot and because it's -15 Celcius outside. I do all my painting with a brush.

But because I am still new to scale models, I would like your advice on my next steps. Should I began weathering the inside of this vehicule? What else?

Thanks for your help!

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I am also new to modelling and my first project is the same as yours. Finding out the hard way what not to do but learning as I go. Would like to see your completed work when you are done. Irishvic

Kiwi · Feb 11, 2022

Irishvic said:
I am also new to modelling and my first project is the same as yours. Finding out the hard way what not to do but learning as I go. Would like to see your completed work when you are done. Irishvic

You are building the same kit from Tamiya?

Have you bought some paint colors? From what I have learned in model railroading, most of the time it's better to paint as you go. If you wait till the end, you will probably not been able to reach some spots with your brushes.

I don't have an airbrush and I don't plan to get one soon. I don't use spraypaint because I have a little parrot that is very fragile to fumes. Instead, I do everything with my brushes and sometimes with sponges depending on the surface I want to recreate.

Take pictures and show me where you are at right now in your model.

Pantherman · Feb 11, 2022

I have got to weather the halftrack, finish the crew and build a base but fairly pleased with it so far. Some pic's added of the crew, will upload halftrack when weathered.

Kiwi · Feb 11, 2022

Irishvic said:
I have got to weather the halftrack, finish the crew and build a base but fairly pleased with it so far. Some pic's added of the crew, will upload halftrack when weathered.

Ok I thought that you were just beginning to build your model. You have done a very good job. It's hard to believe it's your first model.

Pantherman · Feb 11, 2022

Stéphan said:
Ok I thought that you were just beginning to build your model. You have done a very good job. It's hard to believe it's your first model.

Watched alot of YouTube videos which helped. Keep me posted on your build.

Kiwi · Feb 11, 2022

Irishvic said:
Watched alot of YouTube videos which helped. Keep me posted on your build.

I know a few good Youtube chains about scale modeling like Plasmo and Nightshift.

urumomo · Feb 11, 2022

Hey , Stephan ,
You probably know about this channel , but if not : https://www.youtube.com/c/LukeTowan

golgotha · Feb 12, 2022

CitizenSwift said:
If that's the Tamiya kit, I am building the same one myself right now! I'm going to paint and weather all the internals before putting the top on. I'm leaving off the water barrel - so few of my references have it and it fouls against the seats, which I think are a little too large. The kit's from '73 but some of it still fits very well. Some of it doesn't though, so do lots of test fitting

You are right to leave out the water barrel as it was fitted as standard to the 251/8 Ambulance. I have the Dragon 251/16 ausf C on my bench and am having fun with the, "Guess where it should really fit", instructions.

Kiwi · Feb 12, 2022

golgotha said:
You are right to leave out the water barrel as it was fitted as standard to the 251/8 Ambulance. I have the Dragon 251/16 ausf C on my bench and am having fun with the, "Guess where it should really fit", instructions.

Ok so, for my next kit, I will forget Dragon company. I like clear instructions.

golgotha · Feb 12, 2022

Stéphan said:
Ok so, for my next kit, I will forget Dragon company. I like clear instructions.

Dragon do make phenomenal kits, but are often let down by the instructions. Often parts may be misnumbered, left and right parts reverse identified and assembly arrows pointing to the wrong location. Furthermore parts that are common to a family of vehicles, have many glue locations for all the different layouts marked on the part. For instance on my current project the 251 Flamethrower the arrow on the instructions to place the large jellied petrol tanks, pointed to a raised marking that had it been used would have stopped the rear doors being attached and the feed pipes from the tanks to the pump motor being too short.
Dragon also offer kits that offer the choice of building one of three Varients. With this you have to follow the correct part of the instructions. Mind you there are lots of Goodies for the spares box at the finish.
So Dragon are excellent but you do have to check and double check, before committing the glue to plastic. Tamiya have always had the advantage of superb instructions and logical build steps.
Have fun with your 251 build.

Pantherman · Feb 12, 2022

golgotha said:
Dragon do make phenomenal kits, but are often let down by the instructions. Often parts may be misnumbered, left and right parts reverse identified and assembly arrows pointing to the wrong location. Furthermore parts that are common to a family of vehicles, have many glue locations for all the different layouts marked on the part. For instance on my current project the 251 Flamethrower the arrow on the instructions to place the large jellied petrol tanks, pointed to a raised marking that had it been used would have stopped the rear doors being attached and the feed pipes from the tanks to the pump motor being too short.
Dragon also offer kits that offer the choice of building one of three Varients. With this you have to follow the correct part of the instructions. Mind you there are lots of Goodies for the spares box at the finish.
So Dragon are excellent but you do have to check and double check, before committing the glue to plastic. Tamiya have always had the advantage of superb instructions and logical build steps.
Have fun with your 251 build.

Hi, I have only used tamiya kit's so far and as you say they are really good for instructions. You do need to dry fit alot but overall have enjoyed building them as a beginner.

Peppylepugh · Feb 14, 2022

Stéphan said:
Thanks. That's what I thought.

What do you mean exactly by the reverse slope of the upper hull?

Looking at it again, you really don't need to be concerned with this slope being that it would be hidden, but you know it's there.
I didn't know the water tank was intended for the ambulance version.
If you don't learn something every day, you're not paying attention, eh?

CitizenSwift · Feb 18, 2022

For what it's worth, my friend showed me his Dragon version of the same subject and it's far more detailed than this old Tamiya kit. Here's how mine's going so far. Still build/dry fit stages...

Kiwi · Feb 20, 2022

I progress very slowly. Today, I have painted and weathered the floor and the meter panel. I'm quite happy with the meter panel but not so sure about the weathering of the floor.

What do you think?

Pantherman · Feb 21, 2022

Looking pretty good to me . Keep posting updates.

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