Group Build: Historical Warships of WWII

[blakeh1]

5N has been a problem for me to match as well. Its either too purple or too grey.

Scale Colors has some pretty good paints for Navy stuff. I have used their stuff on all my WWII US Navy ships

https://squadron.com/scale-colors-5-n-navy-blue-acrlyic-airbrush-paint/

 

[wjbrandel]

Ok I'm calling this one done, Modeler's edition my backside. The flight deck took almost 2 hours to fit and even then it doesn't fit quite properly. I don't think I will be getting an Academy model again, this is the second one I have had problems with.

 

[Calico Jack]

Ok I'm calling this one done, Modeler's edition my backside. The flight deck took almost 2 hours to fit and even then it doesn't fit quite properly. I don't think I will be getting an Academy model again, this is the second one I have had problems with.

Excellent job! You knocked that one out pretty fast and looks great. Sorry to hear about your experience with Academy kits, has it just been with their 1/700 kits? I haven't found issue yet with their 1/350 kits.

 

[Edbert]

I appreciate the paint codes, but some say XF-18 is close to deck blue, and the laminate deck I purchased would agree. But dang, this looks..."off" to me.

 

[Calico Jack]

I appreciate the paint codes, but some say XF-18 is close to deck blue, and the laminate deck I purchased would agree. But dang, this looks..."off" to me.

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Yeah I would say that laminated deck is pretty far off from Deck Blue 20-B...lol. This was the look in 43ish.

And this was 2008 as a museum and looks closer to what you have now.

 

[Edbert]

The sadface is not a reflection on you Jack.

The "wooden" colored laminate was also available, but would not have fit (all the added AA in later service) and still have been off on color.

This should be relatively easy to correct.

 

[Calico Jack]

The sadface is not a reflection on you Jack.

The "wooden" colored laminate was also available, but would not have fit (all the added AA in later service) and still have been off on color.

This should be relatively easy to correct.

Yes, the Pontos set came with both Deck Blue and natural wood decking laminate. I ditched the pre-painted deck for the natural which I can paint and weather much easier, much like the real deck. Will my colors be exact? Probably not, but it will be close enough considering scale effect.

Oh, and you are killing it with the detail and the PE is looking great on your kit. I have to say your skills as a modeler is transferring very well to building warships! I feel like shelving my build to watch your magic.

 

[Edbert]

And this was 2008 as a museum and looks closer to what you have now.

I grew up not far from the San Jacinto battlefield, used to play on the deck of BB-35 as a kid...traversing the AA guns to shoot down imagined kamikazes. I used to do the same in Fredricksburg with an old rusted out M3 (maybe an M5, I was a kid) Stuart tank as well as a Japanese "medium" that was about the same overall size yet had a 2-man-crew I think. It was shot up bad, multiple penetrations, and the Stuart was not much better. This was long before the Nimitz Museum became the George Bush one.

In the 1970s these relics were not roped and chained off. The gears were not welded shut, we climbed into cramped fighting compartments (before the explosion that killed the original crew) through rusty metal, and the turrets could be turned to some degree. None of my friends ever needed a tetanus considering how much lead and rust we were exposed to.

 

[Calico Jack]

@Edbert it's great that you had the opportunity in your youth to get hands on with all that history.

 

[blakeh1]

I appreciate the paint codes, but some say XF-18 is close to deck blue, and the laminate deck I purchased would agree. But dang, this looks..."off" to me.

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I may be wrong, but based on as much as I could find of what 1942 Revised Deck Blue 20B looked like, I found Tamiya XF-50 is almost a perfect match for what I was looking for, just had to add a touch bit of white to "scale it down" a bit

I used it here on my 1/700 Uss North Carolina build before discovering Scale Colors


and below on my 1/700 Uss Yorktown is the Scale Colors Deck Blue (although it has the brownish tint since I weathered with some tan oils to make it look like the stain had worn to bare wood in the more used spots)




the deck of the 1/700 USS Hornet here on the other hand has not been weathered/scaled down yet

 

[Calico Jack]

@blakeh1 those are some awesome builds, especially in 1/700 scale and the paint and weathering is very well done.

 

[TimM63]

Just one opinion, and we know what that is like.

But no such thing as too much, I can scroll if I want to.

Here's the latest shot of mine. The Navy blue is a hard target to match, what you see here is three different shades of it.

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I have a set of paints for measure 21 from Scale Colors. They seem to be the best match I could find. I just looked for them and scale colors website is down.

 

[blakeh1]

I have a set of paints for measure 21 from Scale Colors. They seem to be the best match I could find. I just looked for them and scale colors website is down.

From the Facebook page, the Scale Colors line has been picked up by Squadron, so he no longer sells direct

the announcement on the Facebook group was that from now on, all Scale Colors and SC3D products will be available on Squadron.com

 

[scottrc78]

Interesting, what primer did you use prior to painting? I usually black base the entire model before painting.

I did the flat black undercoat.

 

[TimM63]

From the Facebook page, the Scale Colors line has been picked up by Squadron, so he no longer sells direct

the announcement on the Facebook group was that from now on, all Scale Colors and SC3D products will be available on Squadron.com

Nice. I don't have any social media so I couldn't look at it.

 

[wjbrandel]

Excellent job! You knocked that one out pretty fast and looks great. Sorry to hear about your experience with Academy kits, has it just been with their 1/700 kits? I haven't found issue yet with their 1/350 kits.

So far it has been that 1/700 and I did a 1/35 hellcat that didn't want to go together properly.

 

[TimM63]

From the Facebook page, the Scale Colors line has been picked up by Squadron, so he no longer sells direct

the announcement on the Facebook group was that from now on, all Scale Colors and SC3D products will be available on Squadron.com

https://squadron.com/scale-colors-5-n-navy-blue-acrlyic-airbrush-paint/

 

[blakeh1]

https://squadron.com/scale-colors-5-n-navy-blue-acrlyic-airbrush-paint/

yep, those are the ones

"Squadron Scale Colors (formerly just Scale Colors), has been in production for eight years, and we've been using many colors in-house that have been around since the very beginning"

• Accurate Colors - The Squadron research and development team consists of experts in WWII naval camouflage and historical research. Our archives contain more than 20,000 photos from the period, and thousands of pages of documents pertaining specifically to paint, camouflage, and mixing. We utilize a variety of historic color standards, such as the 1929 Munsell Book of Color, US Federal Standard series 595, 595A, 595B, and 595C, and German RAL gGmbH. We do in-house photo-spectrometry for computerized color matching for Meuthen, Munsell, RAL, and CieLab color standards. This same methodology used for our naval colors has been expanded into aircraft, military vehicles and other areas where historical accuracy is paramount.

Although unless I am missing them, I do not see the other colors like Ocean Grey 5-0, Light Grey (5-L), Pale Grey (5-P), Haze Grey (5-H) and Dull Black typically used in Measure 32 and 33 schemes
Unless they are a different name now.
It was a recent change over though, so maybe they do not have those in production yet

Edited to add...
spoke too soon. Not sure if these literally went up in the past day or not since I had looked before, but now I am seeing them (although I think yesterday there was only 4 pages, now there is something like 8

https://squadron.com/scale-colors-5-p-pale-gray-acrlyic-airbrush-paint/
https://squadron.com/scale-colors-5-l-light-gray-acrlyic-airbrush-paint/
https://squadron.com/scale-colors-5-h-haze-gray-acrlyic-airbrush-paint/
https://squadron.com/scale-colors-5-o-ocean-gray-acrlyic-airbrush-paint/
https://squadron.com/scale-colors-20-b-deck-blue-acrlyic-airbrush-paint/